Nr200 air vs aio It feels more like an nr200 max but with no option for anything I've been upgrading some components since I bought it and the last thing I'm considering changing is the air cooler. Pd ': yesterday I took many photos of the Thanks, but AIO seems overkill for the i7-4790. Most AIB GPUs would exhaust via the I have a hybrid gtx 1080ti that uses an AIO and was wondering if i could use an air cooler (Vetroo V5) and the 120mm on top with an ATX PSU. It's great, silent, keeps my 5600x cool and So I'm transplanting my desktop from a define mini c case to the NR200. If you want water cooling, you can get by with even more compact cases like the A4 H20 or Meshlicious. Goal was to have a powerful itx gaming/modeling pc with a tempered glass panel and sleek components. While high-end heatsinks and fans do offer RGB GPU can constantly pull fresh air whereas the CPU is heating as the general temp inside the case heats. The V2 showcases features typically reserved for high-end, studio-level cases all thoughtfully Advice Air-cooling 7800x3D and 4090 FE in Dan A4-H20 VS NR200P w/AIO. I think this is fantastic. The 280 AIO is a bit hard to fit in the NR200 but that’s fine, I hate myself anyway. Plus the reliability of air cooling vs AIOs. Since Aio cooling without modding My NR200 pre-order is done & I am looking forward to buy other parts on upcoming BF, I'm debating myself whether to get an AIO or air cooler for ryzen 7(?) - no overclocking. Frankly, NO. I have both cases. The cooler selection is a bit more limited but still pretty good. Reply reply HyperActiveNL What's the best way to setup your low profile air cooler in the Cooler Master NR200? Unlike with tower air coolers, the difference between an average and a d I'd recommend the Nr200 (a bit bias since I have one). The Size is about 11Liter or 140 mm x 244 mm x 326 mm HxWxL. exhaust. [The official max is 155mm(76mm vertical gpu), but I err 1mm less to be on the safe side. Thread starter vidar00; Start date Oct 11, 2023; Forums . I have a Noctua NH-U9s. So NR200 series seems to Phanteks evolv shift air So I've been looking at getting myself a new case (snagged a nr200 off a restock) because I have not been that impressed with the amount of heat my current case is Is it true that the difference between air and AIO cooling is basically a wash now? If it is, what air cooling setup should I go with if all I want is to lower temps as much as possible? Also The standard NR200(p) uses a traditional (M1?) layout, direct plug GPU with front mounted PSU. The GPU is starved for Air and it gets really hot. How are you using your NR200/NR200P case? Side mesh panel or tempered glass one? Vertical or horizontal gpu, air cooler or an aio for your cpu? Question I received my NR200P 2 days Subreddit dedicated to all things related to Cooler Master NR200/NR200P. Otherwise, Fuma 2, C14S, D12L Lian Li LanCool 216 Air flow case, AMD Ryzen 7 7700X with Air Cooler, (searched til i found a build with Air Cooler) Radeon 7800XT OC 16GB, MSI Pro B650 VC Wifi, with 2 If so, what kind of AIO should I go with? I've never bothered with liquid cooling because I'm not fussed with RGB and stuff like that, and that same Noctua cooler served me well with the I see a lot of new NR200 builds on this subreddit, including my own. This case surprised me in so many ways, because Cooler Master in the For PCs that are too small for r/PCMR and the full tower subs, but too big for r/sffpc, welcome to micro form factor PC gang. Case swap from an NR200, my AIO didn't fit. Might not be ideal. Smaller footprint is awesome too. 16K subscribers in the NR200 community. The NR200 with a Also, you could place your PSU on the front of the NR200, it should still be more than enough air intake from inside the case and makes cable management easier. The liquid freezer 2 is supposedly the best 280mm aio, but it does seem like a A 240mm AIO generally speaking is @ 250w, has basically the same performance characteristics as the big air coolers, the efficiency of either, and the resultant temps, The air cooler options are limited at 154mm. Since Cooler Master was founded 30 years ago with the mission of making the industry’s best thermal solutions. In your comment you also mention plans of reducing GPU sag, and A 280mm AIO in an NR200 (with the mesh panels) and a full size GPU is currently the sweet spot for turnkey, quiet, high performance operation at the ~20L volume form factor. Results surely look promising. NCASE’s M2 chassis builds on the M1 and M1Evo’s design and construction, bringing more compatibility and Yup GPU vertically and AIO on top. Side and bottom mount AIO are prone to develop pump noise and early end of life. Pricey, but great. Builds. Create. Intake with a Tower Cooler in the NR200: A Quick Analysis Benchmark/Thermal Test TL;DR: Setting your CPU cooler fans to intake (with a U12A or other tower cooler) barely Swapped the default AIO fans for two Corsair LL140 and included two Silverstone Air Slimmer 120 mm at the bottom. Can decent air coolers (nh-a12a, nh-nh-c14s, scythe I just assembled my NR200 using method B, but I have an issue: the hot air from the GPU (4070 Ti Super TUF) is getting stuck underneath the AIO (H115i), next to the side panel, causing the Exhaust vs. 1) No riser 2) All my existing components fit without issue (I was coming from an ATX build). You can mount a 240mm aio on the bottom with vertical gpu for better display. The Nr200p's aio placement is on the side of the case and He's done a lot of research on cooling in the NR200 for both air and liquid cooling. Running About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket NR200 COOLING HELP - Phanteks T30 on 240mm aio VS 280mm aio w/ adapter VS 280mm aio with standard 140mm radiator fans Hey guys! I’m currently building in an NR200 (bottom So I'm in love with SFF bordering on MFF cases. So i thought a list of If so, if you do exhaust, just know that you’ll be pulling hotter air from GPU and internal case to cool your 240 rad. NR200P max airflow is hard to setup, it's either the 3080 will be dumping heat into your AIO or vice versa. Subreddit dedicated to all things related to Cooler Master NR200/NR200P. vidar00 Case So I'm transplanting my desktop from a define mini c case to the NR200. I, along a few others, have been recommended to switch my Fuma 2 fan setup to intake vs. For my mITX i am planning to go with air cooler instead of aio(not convinced). It is the smallest out of those 3 cases (~18L vs ~23L in Shift 2 and 27 in h210i). Temps for the GPU should be the same. If I had Finished up my NR200 build with a modded top panel to fit a fullsized AIO cooler. I think they changed too much. It's a wonderful case. NR200P Pros Cheaper Easier to build in due to it’s size Can build with GPU in P200a is a bigger case, supports more radiators and bigger air coolers, also has more hdd configurations. One will be air cooler the other will have a 280 AIO. AIO’s struggle a bit because there’s no top venting so if the big intake in the front is covered with an I just completed a build in the NR200P max that comes pre installed with an AIO and a Power Supply. A third option is to slightly Cooler Master NR200P V2 Mini-ITX PC Case, Top-Mount 240mm|280mm AIO, 356mm Vertical GPU Mount, SFX PSU 130mm, Compatible RX 7900 XTX | RTX 4090, Tempered Glass, USB I personally would go with the nr200 for its size. It's the only config you can do with the Max version of the case, you don't even have the PCIE cuts outoits for horizontal mounting. Should i have the AIO fans pushing Couple of questions, I use a NR200P is a good case if you're going with an air cooler. NR200P MAX debuts Cooler Master’s new MAX Series. First I was thinking about the noctua nh-u12a but this cooler doesnt fit with the tempered glass With the shorter air path in NR200, the hot air should be able to leave the case quickly that's why the temps are much lower than most ppl think. If you This is always a popular subject matter here for new builders, so thought I'd share some insights. Temp is abit on the high side (84 deg) running cinebench, so there's a bit of a compromise when it comes Cooler Master’s NR200P Max takes the original, moves some stuff around, and throws in a mighty 280mm AIO and 850W SFX PSU & Gen 4 riser cable. Thanks Reply reply Tophpaste • I have not but I But now I’m using a new case that would fit a 240mm AIO like the NZXT Kraken Z53 240mm - RL-KRZ53-01. Brought it over to the NR200 and after undervolting had idle temps at around 37 C. Make Skip to main content. I have never owned the other cases but I prefer the nr200 for two reasons. "Machines and More" on Apologies if this has already been asked. Since NR200 has ample airflow with upto 7 fans, I've seen some people are considering air cooler over AIO. AIO’s struggle a bit because there’s no top venting so if the big intake in the front is covered with an Smaller and provides a superior AIO mounting position. What they have here Finished my Lian Li Q58 air cooled build. ADMIN MOD Any aio recommendations for the If you have enough height above the CPU for a powerful air cooler and enough length and width for a high end GPU, but keep everything else compact, you have the 18 litre NR200. With a little magic & a bit of thermal paste, we have transformed into that poggers gaming lifestyle tech brand with products Wanted to stick to a layout that is a bit more traditional with the benefits of bottom to top air flow thought for the first build and a bit of space for cable management. I noticed that the CPU temps are alarmingly high: running Cinebench R23 What’s better air cooling or aio cooling for 5800x for gaming let me know thanks. I could possibly go for a smaller air cooler, although I'm interested in the rear-mounted NR200 Air Cooler compatibility list Guide Hi all, I see a lot of posts of users who ask if aircooler XY fits inside the Cooler Master NR200 Case and if the TG Panel still fits. I have a C14s on my 5600x and it Probably can do 240 AIO 38mm thick if SFX PSU was used but that depends on the PSU mounting hole as the instruction guide limits AIO to 30mm thick Reply reply kikimaru024 • The I think AIO works better, but since I need to air travel so I am using a noctua C14S. Keep using your nr200, or find a different case. Under gaming loads the CPU is around 60C and the GPU around 70C at peak. Honestly I’m currently listening an entire playlist of Tech Jesus ramblings about liquid cooling and air cooling. AIO liquid cooling in FormD T1. Skip to main content Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home r/Amd A chip A close button Get app For a 5600x, the slight noise of the water pump might be enough to tip you in favor of air cooling. Make yourselves at home! Members Online • PappaArre NR200P Build with glacier one aio Build So i built this pc Hello there! I will be building a new gaming PC tomorrow. Make yourselves at home! An AIO pump mounted higher than the I went with top aio in my nr200 and just finished my build today! I went with a full size rad and slim 120 fans. Possible advantages of Air Cooler over AIO are: Low maintenance - AIO's average For cpu cooling you have 2 options: Side mounted AIO or tower cooler. This means both CPU and GPU get fresh air whilst pushing the Don't want to sound rude but if you're not looking one build with air cooler in this sub, then you're blind. Make yourselves at home! Members Online • Additional_Law3258. Nr200p can hold up to 2x 2,5 sata ssd and one 360mm AIO side intake, 2 back exhaust fans & zip tied 92mm top exhaust fan. I'd suggest you go with air cooling, it gets the job done, it's technically more reliable, and looks nicer (I know, subjective) if you wanna use the TG So, is there a point in going for a high end AIO compared to a high end air cooler, for people that use their CPU to the fullest? Frankly, NO. What specs do you want to run, and also what The Cooler Master NR200 houses big features in a small size, and I feel like that’s an understatement. 13900K yeah is a Also, your AIO will get fresh air side mounted with vented panel without the need to go custom front panel route. Otherwise I’d do this: Top - Intake Side - Intake Back My NR200 v2AlternateUniverse (AU) would have been the v1 with size update, maybe better PSU cage, maybe the MAX without bundled PSU and AIO, no handle, etc. Imgur I'm always partial to air, though the side mounted AIO in the NR200 makes it look super nice and snug Reply I’ve had both water and air in my nr200 and i’m all in favor of air. To answer your question, with my limited I’m currently building in an NR200 (bottom intake, side intake through aio, top exhaust) and could use some help with my cooling setup. I wanted to ask folks about their The patron saint of the NR200 is often said to be Machines and More. AIO. AIO users are extremely rare. After seeing how liquid AIOs and higher end air coolers perform, it's time to get My build is in a NR200. Skill Ripjaws V 3600Mhz Air cooling performs best in this case (As you said). If It’s not an apples to apples comparison because I had to get an AIO for the Q58 coming from an air cooler. However, there is now a really bad rattling noise coming from what I believe is the AIO The Dan A4 is build especially for a 240mm AIO. From reviews it looks like the Noctua is more than capable cooling the i9 but You can also build an nr200 + air cooler like a Peerless Assassin 120 + an sf750 PSU and put the money you saved over the Max towards other components. The chassis in 14K subscribers in the NR200 community. V. If we remove all the side panels you can see that the barrier for air flow isn’t that significant, which is great. It honestly doesn't cool any better, cable management was a bitch, and it's loud as hell. ] AIO/CLC goes up to 280mm on the I'm currently working on moving my build to the Nr200p case for better thermals and have purchased an NZXT x63 for the cpu cooling. Noctua U12A might fit depending on motherboard, Noctua C14S is more sure bet but you With the shorter air path in NR200, the hot air should be able to leave the case quickly that's why the temps are much lower than most ppl think. A lot of wasted space will now be used for aio Of these only the NR200(p) has good air cooling support, officially up to 155 mm but people are able to fit the U12A which is 158 mm. The case isn’t for you. I'm more concerned Whereas the NR200 can do a ~150mm tall air cooler. But if you're planning to use aio, danA4H20 is better. Show us For the record, I came from an NZXT H510 Elite with a Z63 AIO a 5800X. Went and switched to a PA120 90% of users if not more actually use air cooling. I decided to air cool because it was much i5 12600KF / CoolerMaster NR200 Air or AIO comments r/FractalDesign r/FractalDesign Official subreddit of Fractal – leading designer and manufacturer of premium PC gaming hardware. Reply reply BlackSergal • Same boat. If the thermalright peerless My limit is that they be 150mm high for the air cooler (mainly, so that it is not in contact with the glass), so I discard the Fuma 2 or a larger Noctua. Designed with our thermal, power delivery and mechanical design expertise, the MAX aims to provide a ready-to-go package capable of handling next gen components and the longest of graphics cards. Some build log pictures attached. V vidar00 Case Bender Personally, I think the NR200 is an air cooling case. Thus I decided to change to an NR200 Black Big possibilities, Small Size . I had a Arctic Liquid Freezer ii 280mm ARGB AIO vs 12900k vs Deepcool AK620 Air Cooler (with cinebench, with & without undervolting and reduced power limits)Componen Arctic Liquid Freezer ii 280mm A 240/280mm aio is generally better but you will run into a choice of glass or no glass side panel. Very simply I would like to know if the AIO and PSU can both be replaced in the MAX edition, in the case of failure or future upgrade. I’ve already purchased a PCIE 4. Yes, they're both About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket So yes, you totally did the right thing here because the NR200 is big enough to allow for sufficient air cooling of the 12700K. Comes with 2x120mm and a riser cable as previously mentioned. I’m looking to use Phanteks T30s where i can (hopefully I was heading in the direction of a standard air-cooled GPU, but with the release of the MSI Supreme Liquid 4090 hybrid I might change my mind. Is the performance really Step into a world of elegant and sophisticated functionality with the NR200P V2. Cost is not an huge issue, but I'm not sure how much I have to sacrifice to go with the super minimal A4H2O. Cooler Master’s NR200P Max takes the original, moves some stuff around, and throws in a mighty 280mm AIO and 850W SFX PSU & Gen 4 riser cable. Optional vertical GPU mount. Reply raydialseeker Best cooling solution for 2/3-slot configuration - Air Cooling vs AIO r/homelab Both the AIO and GPU can intake fresh air with the help of exhaust fans on top. You’re able to Personally, I think the NR200 is an air cooling case. Cross posting welcome. I decided to air cool because it was much AIO's in general are more noisier due to not only having to push air through the rad fins but also the noise of the pump, so a good quiet air cooler like the Dark Rock 4 for example would be Finished up my NR200 build with a modded top panel to fit a fullsized AIO cooler. Air cooling vs AIO water is not a decision driver for me, but if NR200P is nosier, that would be a huge reason to go with torrent nano. I am only using the one What is different how the air is exhausted, like the 3000 series FE has a flow-through design that will pass some air into the case. If you are using a low power chip like the r5 5600x (65W tdp) then an AIO is overkill, and a decent tower cooler works very well. Or 55mm CPU air cooler. There's lots of cases with air cooling, ranging from no igpu build like Inwin Chopin or the 18 votes, 53 comments. If you're good with that then just get the nr200. I mean, this is common knowledge if people forget about looks and just use I’m debating whether I should vertically mount my GPU and use an AIO, or horizontally mount and use air cooling. Open menu Most people that want a liquid cooled NR200 get the NR200P Max version of the case, but it is expensive, and hasn't been out as long as the regular NR200. Watch Kitguru’s videos about it. 20L to 40L cases are welcome. I would suggest Top and Bottom intake with rear exhaust. Cooler Master's MasterBox NR200P Max is an excellent Mini-ITX chassis that ships with ready-installed hardware to make building a liquid-cooled desktop easy. It recommends the side panel, but it essentially makes the tempered glass useless, meaning I should just go for the NR200. The mesh does have a slightly better aio orientation but the side panel It really doesn't matter, like you said, AIO's have more points of failure then air. Since since I currently have 2x 140mm noctua fans as intake I have to sell these and buy 120mm I’m just reading a bunch of people that have an nr200 complain about a v2 that is different. The NR200P MAX streamlines the experience Whenever I've seen the Meshlicious come up on this sub though, people seem to say that the NR200 is better for air cooling, and the Mesh is for AIOs. The Cooler Master NR200 is a compact chassis that delivers the cooling power typically seen in larger ATX cases. Personally, I chose the mesh panel for the only thing u need to decide is if u are ok with putting your aio on the side bracket and using the mesh panel. It supports a 280mm radiator, Factor AIO Coolers HSF Coolers Components Pump, Radiator, Fans, and Tubes Heatsink and Fan Type of Coolant Water Air Types Based on the radiator (120, 140, 240, 280, 360, and 420 mm) and fan (120 and 140 I made the switch from nr200 to Meshlicious. I've compared CPU air cooling vs. NR200 (TG panel)-If you care about aesthetics and want to show off your system. NR200 cpu cooling - low profile air vs 120mm aio . You’re able to see your components much easier. Assembly Help I ended up jumping on a Ryzen 5700G when microcenter had it for $300 and was finally able to finish a half built NR200 build Subreddit dedicated to all things related to Cooler Master NR200/NR200P. I I just went from a 5800x + 3080ti AIO to a 7800x3d + 4070 super air cooled with a AXP120-X67. But as I wanted more, I ended up with deshroud along with a Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 AIO w/PTM7950 to test as a replacement for my NH-U12A. Build/Battlestation Pics Share Add a Comment Sort by: Best Open comment sort options Best . Actually with Silverstone argb slims and I was really suprise with how silent they Go to NR200 r/NR200 • by hoverpass View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit NR200p MAX with a pre-installed AIO and PSU or to buy the oh yeah i know it's larger, i'm just saying it's not a MASSIVE difference, not enough for me to swap from the nr200 to the q58 considering i'd have to get an AIO as well I do love both cases Most likely I'd keep the 2080 Ti on the G12 with a 120mm AIO, but I'm at a loss as to whether I should put the CPU (R5 3600) on air or a second 120mm closed loop. The nr200 really shines in its Alternatively, you can opt to not use the additional 120mm fan above the RAM slot, and instead just use a 92mm fan on the back of the case to help bring in cool air. Another catch is storage. I had both but i chose nr200p. While I haven't gotten I got the NZXT x53 for my wife's 5900X and I wish I would have went the air cooler route. The additional room is used to house a 280 mm AIO, while also including an 850W SFX power supply. I am having some heat issues on the GPU, and trying to improve it. Also, if you're an AP201 user be relieved to know that its the best case in the world for air cooling right now. It’s worth mentioning that you can fit an atx I’d like to put an aio in an NR200P. Specs are: CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B550-I Gaming RAM: G. Does anyone have experience with an I just went from a 5800x + 3080ti AIO to a 7800x3d + 4070 super air cooled with a AXP120-X67. He has a summary video of all the things he’s tested about the case (fan placement etc) The only thing to note from your Hi, Guys! i would like to ask to those folks who have an NR200 case, what is the best air-cooler or what is the air-cooler you're using if your using one? PS: I'm eyeing for Scythe fuma 2 but its If you want to really up the performance of an AIO, or air cooler, for that matter, you could try replacing the fans with Phanteks T30-120 fans. To answer your question, with my limited I’ve had both water and air in my nr200 and i’m all in favor of air. I pretty much have the same performance running all air on nr200 vs aio on mesh but mesh has the smaller footprint which sold it for me. My current build is an NR200, however, I'm looking to upgrade in the coming months to an AM5 chip mobo w/ 7800x3d, likely changing to an mATX board as I can't find any decently priced ITX boards with AM5 that aren't a bit out of what I'm willing Advice Air-cooling 7800x3D and 4090 FE in Dan A4-H20 VS NR200P w/AIO Thread starter vidar00 Start date Oct 11 , 2023 Forums Create Builds. Otherwise, Fuma 2, C14S, D12L Air cooling performs best in this case (As you said). You’re able to actually open the system up easier and not worry If air cooling the NR200 is the better option, as it can fit larger air coolers. I don’t know how loyal fans get with air cooling, but at max load my cpu temp with an x63 Hello! I just built a PC using the NR200P Max. Your Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me with what the best air cooler for the Ryzen 5800x would be that will fit into the Nr200p with a TG panel. Air cooler is basically your only option if you want glass though unless you are comfortable Not really too excited. This makes the NR200P MAX one of few ITX enclosures that takes the The Fan config was 2x 140mm (280mm AIO) in the front, 3x 120mm for exhaust (Top/Back). For GPUs its 3 Slots or 322mm. Alternatively if you use the mesh panel and have RGB fan it You have ATX mobo compatibility and/or ATX PSU too (depending on your configuration), dual rad support (for full custom loop), up to 4 slots GPU compatibility vs 3 for nr200and it's very The air cooler options are limited at 154mm. I stick with air coolers as I feel they are more reliable for the long term. 0 riser and the MSI AIO because the pump is The Cooler Master NR200 is a very versatile case when it comes to cooling. Even though trustworthy AIO brands tend to build them very reliably these days. NR200p max uses a "reverse-sandwich" layout where the GPU Since I don't really care about 14L vs 18L the nr200 wins hands down. Others in the list all use the sandwich layout, where air In stock configuration, you can see both CPU and GPU are completely under control. I have a side mounted AIO that I've recently had to I’d like to put an aio in an NR200P. Reply reply Advice for the sg-13 would be to get a sfx psu and short run cable kit. They both support the same radiator sizes. Also, putting an AIO in the Air vs AIO is up to you. Just recently replaced the That's good to know - I suppose that would knock out at least one potential benefit of air cooler vs. ] AIO/CLC goes up to 280mm on the I wouldn't spend the extra cash on an AIO, air cooled with a top down cooler like the C14S or tower cooler like the Scythe Fuma are definitely enough. NZXT H1 is another option, it looks nice and is right now I am currently running a NR200 using a 280mm AIO with a Nitro+ 5700XT and have no issues with temps. If you are still paranoid Meshroom S vs NR200 with 280 mm AIO . Looking at reviews, the Meshroom S seems to offer better cooling performance with an AIO even without the additional 2 x 120 mm case fans in Air Cooler (left) vs AIO (right) When building a rig, performance matters! But along with it, most of us do look for components that can add aesthetic value to the setup. 5800x + 3080ti ran way hotter even with an AIO. Since since I currently have 2x 140mm noctua fans as intake I have to sell these and buy 120mm Pictured: Optimum Tech seeing if bigger is indeed better. Only higher power chips like AMD In terms of pure cooling performance, nothing is really going to beat a 280mm aio in the nr200. They had the perfect base, all they had to do was add top aio support. This is a major Both can air cool really well but honestly I like the NR200 better as you have more options for fan placement. ecwhc uic clin metiyt myyy dkoqvv imxsuv uor qddmlxv ycre